A friend sent this
along, inviting me to comment on it. I sent back a short reply, but
decided it might be useful to do a slightly longer one. The quoted
material (wandering around facebook, apparently) is pretty typical of a
way of arguing that I run across a lot. It's closely associated with
train wrecks in public deliberation--basically, it's a good example of
how *not* to think, write, or argue about politics.
What strikes me about this method of "arguing" (it's really about
asserting, and not even arguments) is that people who engage in it
always insist on FACTS (and they almost always capitalize that word)
when their own argument is singularly short on "facts," at least as
defined by logicians, argumentation theorists, philosophers, lawyers,
or anyone who thinks carefully about the issues of epistemology,
ontology, and discourse. Loosely, there are various different ways that
people in various fields define the term "fact." I'm not advocating
any particular one, just pointing out that this kind of discourse
doesn't rely on "facts" for its conclusions by *any* of the
definitions. And that's interesting (I speculate below why people like
this insist so strongly on FACTS when they don't actually use any to
reach their conclusions).
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A statement about external reality (that is, not about the
subjective state of an individual) that can be seen by anyone who
observes the phenomena. A statement about reality that you believe
strongly, but is not shared by all observers, is an opinion, not a
fact. The statement must be accepted as an accurate representation of
reality by *all* observers, not just ones who agree with the
conclusion.
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A statement about external reality (again, not about the personal
beliefs of an individual or even community) that can be falsified or
verified through an appeal to criteria not particular to the situation
(for instance, by some appeal to standards that apply across
ingroup/outgroup membership).
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A statement about an observable phenomenon to which people who are impartial (that is, have no stand on the issue) agree.
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A statement to which all interlocutors agree (this is the legal
definition, and it means a statement to which parties will stipulate).
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A statement to which all observers agree (by this definition, a fact is not necessarily true, just not worth arguing about).
Most of the screed is opinion, and not about facts. Quite a few
of the assertions are counterfactual (aka, not "facts" because they
are false statements), some involve what could be called "facts" (at
least by one of the definitions) but are unrelated to the conclusion
the author (I assume either a woman or a gay man, since Romney stirs a
fire in the author's pants [see the first argument], so I don't know if
male or female--I'll call the author Terry, a nice, gender-neutral
name that I like) draws. The main issue with the argument is that it
appeals to premises I doubt Terry actually believes.
Okay, here is the screed:
I invite any arguments to these FACTS. I do not invite anything
arguments with anything other than the subjects and statements posted.
If you have to stray from what is on here, then I already know you know
what is on here is true, or you'd stay with the subject.
It's a little unclear what "the subject" is--presumably, anyone who
tries to argue about Romney's policies? And, of course, if that is the
argument, it factually incorrect, and I doubt even the author agrees
with the premise. The premise is: if you change the subject, it is
because you agree with the assertions. Of course, a person might
actually think the assertions are trivial, incoherent, are on the wrong
stasis, or raise other issues.
If I were to say to Terry, if you change the subject (which I will
decide if you have done), that means you agree with me, I doubt Terry
would grant me those conditions.
TODAY'S MUST READ AND PAST ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW! Why Mitt Romney
is Unlikable! A lot is being said in the media about Mitt Romney not
being "likable" or that he doesn't "relate well" to people. Frankly,
we struggled to understand why. So after much research, we have come
up with a Top Ten List to explain this "unlikablility." Top Ten
Reasons To Dislike Mitt Romney:
1. Drop-dead, collar-ad handsome with gracious, statesmanlike aura.
Looks like every central casting's #1 choice for Commander-in-Chief.
Opinion, not a fact. It isn't something to which a neutral observer would agree, nor to which all interlocutors agree.
Probably more important, it appeals to a premise that is factually
incorrect (and which I doubt Terry believes): that whether a person
warms Terry's groin is even relevant to a person's being a good
President. Plenty of terrible Presidents were good-looking (I don't know
whether they would turn on Terry, since I don't know Terry's
standards, but many people found them attractive). I doubt, for
instance, that Terry would think that a President who raised taxes
eleven times, tripled the deficit, increased unemployment, apologized
for American repeatedly (he went on what some people call "the apology
tour"), signed pro-choice legislation, and "ballooned" federal spending
was a good President, right? Or that one who got the US into unnecessary
wars, had such irresponsible money practices that he caused one of the
worst panics and depressions, thoroughly politicized government hiring,
and used the power of the government to destroy opposition political
parties? (Granted, he threw mud in the faces of people who advocated
state nullification of federal laws, which Terry may or may not like.)
Both tremendously handsome men.Meanwhile, people like Lincoln and
Eisenhower were not movie star good-looking. Nixon was ugly, and Clinton
handsome. So, since Terry likes issuing challenges, here's a challenge:
admit the criterion is irrelevant, or say that Eisenhower was not a
good President.
2. Been married to ONE woman his entire life, and has been faithful
to her, including through her bouts with breast cancer and MS.
Well, I suppose that makes him a better man than Reagan, Eisenhower,
FDR, Bush, Gingrich, Jefferson, and, well, most Presidents. But, no
better than Obama.
3. No scandals or skeletons in his closet. (How boring is that?)
Factually incorrect. Huge skeletons about what happened with Bain
while he was taking money from them as CEO. There is also the issue of
where he paid taxes when he voted in Massachussetts. (Can you say voter
fraud?) Speaking of voter fraud, he hired a group that had already been
caught repeatedly destroying Dem registration cards--do you want to call
that intimidation or just corruption? And, of course, all that money he
hid in Switzerland to evade taxes. Then there are all the lies he has
told--about himself and his positions and Obama. There is all that
bailout money he took (including re Detroit), his record of bullying
gays, impersonating cops, evading Vietnam...and, well, seriously, too
many to list. So, many, many skeletons.
4. Can't speak in a fake, southern, "black preacher voice" when necessary.
Factually incorrect. Of course he can.
5. Highly intelligent. Graduated cum laude from both Harvard Law
School and Harvard Business School...and by the way, his academic
records are NOT sealed.
Factually incorrect. Terry has been listening to Limbaugh and the GOP
noise machine which have been claiming that Obama's records are
"sealed." Well, either Obama's aren't, or Romney's are. I don't care
which way you call it, but you have to call it one way or the other. All
academic records are private, and can't be released without the
person's permission. Neither Obama nor Romney has released their
academic records, as far as I know. (I also don't know how many people
graduate cum laude per year--I think Terry is confusing cum laude with
either magna or summa cum laude.) So, if Obama's academic records are
"sealed," then so are Romney's.Btw, I think this is a cunning use of
racist codewords. Academic records aren't sealed, but juvenile criminal
records are. I think this is a deliberate attempt on the part of the GOP
Noise Machine to associate Obama with criminality, 'cuz he's black.
Terry's use of the word "sealed," and his/her failure to notice that
Romney's are just as "sealed" (if you want "sealed" records, let's talk
about Bush's) shows this strategy works with people like Terry.
6. Doesn't smoke or drink alcohol, and has never done drugs, not
even in the counter-culture age when he went to college. Too square
for today's America?
Well, a negative is non-falsifiable, so this only fits a few
definitions of fact, but certainly this appeals to a premise I doubt
Terry believes--that such characteristics are desirable in a President,
since no Presidents would fit this criteria. I mean, if Terry wants to
say that Washington was a terrible President, s/he can go for it.
7. Represents an America of "yesterday", where people believed in
God, went to Church, didn't screw around, worked hard, and became a
SUCCESS!
I'm particularly interested in this topos in people who insist on
FACTS. Of course , this is all counterfactual--it's false even on the
face of it (everyone became a success?). It's an appeal to nostalgia, to
a belief about how things used to be. And, anyone with a shallow
knowledge of history knows image of the past isn't true--belief in God
has waxed and waned in the US, as has church attendance (which is high
right now), premarital and extramarital sex also wax and wane, and
working hard didn't always lead to people being a success. But, if Terry
really thinks things used to be better, s/he can enjoy defending
slavery and segregation. I wait with bated breath.So, just to be clear:
not facts, but false assertions.
8. Has a family of five great sons....and none of them have police
records or are in drug rehab. But of course, they were raised by a
stay-at-home mom, and that "choice" deserves America's scorn.
Hey, just like Obama! Unless Terry thinks that having two daughters
isn't as good as having sons. But, surely, Terry isn't a sexist bigot?
And, of course, Jenna Bush did get busted for underage drinking and
having a fake id. So, Terry thinks Bush wasn't fit to be President?
9. Oh yes.....he's a MORMON. We need to be very afraid of that very
strange religion that teaches its members to be clean-living,
patriotic, fiscally conservative, charitable, self-reliant, and
honest.
I am SO glad that Terry thinks fear-mongering about religion is
stupid. I do too. Oh, wait, Terry engages in it. So, Terry appeals to a
premise s/he doesn't believe.
10. And one more point.....pundits say because of his wealth, he
can't relate to ordinary Americans. I guess that's because he made
that money HIMSELF.....as opposed to marrying it or inheriting it from
Dad. Apparently, he didn't understand that actually working at a job
and earning your own money made you unrelatable to Americans
Straw man. And sheer opinion. Actually, not even as informed as
opinion. Terry has NO (the caps were for you, Terry) idea how Romney
made his money. I want to emphasize that: Terry is making a claim on the
basis of no evidence whatsoever because Romney has deliberately ensured
that no one can have that evidence. And Terry says no skeletons?
Really?No one knows about Romney's source of income, because, unlike
every other recent Presidential candidate, he won't release his
taxes--because the skeletons are rattling hard. So, Terry is kind of
lying by claiming to have knowledge s/he doesn't have.
And then we get what these sorts of people do really often--a series
of items (some of which really are facts) but are logically unrelated to
any claim Terry seems to be making.
. ****************************** *********************** Personal
Information: His full Name is: Willard Mitt Romney He was Born: March
12, 1947 and is 65 years old. His Father: George W. Romney, former
Governor of the State of Michigan He was raised in Bloomfield Hills ,
Michigan He is Married to Ann Romney since 1969; they five children.
Education: B.A. from Brigham Young University, J.D. and M.B.A. from
Harvard University Religion: Mormon - The Church of Jesus Christ of
the Latter-Day Saints Working Background: After high school, he spent
30 months in France as a Mormon missionary.
After going to both Harvard Business School and Harvard Law School
simultaneously, he passed the Michigan bar exam, but never worked as
an attorney.
In 1984, he co-founded Bain Capital a private equity investment firm, one of the largest such firms in the United States.
In 1994, he ran for Senator of Massachusetts and lost to Ted Kennedy.
He was President and CEO of the 2002 Winter Olympic Games.
In 2002, he was elected Governor of the State of Massachusetts where he eliminated a 1.5 billion deficit.
Some Interesting Facts about Romney: Bain Capital, starting with
one small office supply store in Massachusetts, turned it into
Staples; now over 2,000 stores employing 90,000 people.
Bain Capital also worked to perform the same kinds of business
miracles again and again, with companies like Domino's, Sealy,
Brookstone, Weather Channel,Burger King, Warner Music Group,
Dollarama,Home Depot Supply and many others.
He was an unpaid volunteer campaign worker for his dad's gubernatorial campaign 1 year.
He was an unpaid intern in his dad's governor's office for eight years.
He was an unpaid bishop and state president of his church for ten years.
He was an unpaid President of the Salt Lake Olympic Committee for three years.
He took no salary and was the unpaid Governor of Massachusetts for four years.
He gave his entire inheritance from his father to charity.
Mitt Romney is one of the wealthiest self-made men in our country
but has given more back to its citizens in terms of money, service and
time than most men.
And in 2011 Mitt Romney gave over $4 million to charity, almost 19%
of his income.... Just for comparison purposes, Obama gave 1% and Joe
Biden gave $300 or .0013%.
Mitt Romney is Trustworthy: He will show us his birth certificate
He will show us his high school and college transcripts. He will show
us his social security card. He will show us his law degree. He will
show us his draft notice. He will show us his medical records. He will
show us his income tax records. He will show us he has nothing to
hide. Mitt Romney's background, experience and trustworthiness show
him to be a great leader and an excellent citizen for President of the
United States.
You may think that Romney may not be the best representative the
Republicans could have selected. At least I know what religion he is,
and that he won't desecrate the flag, bow down to foreign powers, or
practice fiscal irresponsibility. I know he has the ability to turn
this financial debacle that the current regime has gotten us into. We
won't like all the things necessary to recover from this debt, but
someone with Romney's background can do it. But, on the minus side, he
never was a "Community Organizer", never took drugs or smoked pot,
never got drunk, did not associate with communists or terrorists, nor
did he attend a church whose pastor called for God to damn the US.
This is a field day of unrelated and sometimes false statements, but
I'll just mention the end--Terry knows what religion Obama is
(Christian), assuming that Terry's knowledge is even remotely related to
facts. The current regime hasn't gotten us into this debt--Bush did
that (and that is a fact), with exactly the policies that Romney says he
will follow. (You can dispute whether that is a fact, since one could
plausibly argue that I have no more idea what Romney will actually do
than Terry has any idea about how Romney made his money--we're both
making wild guesses, because Romney won't say.) Romney's background
doesn't make him able to handle the government; he can't do what he did
at Bain (I'm not sure whether that's opinion or false claim on Terry's
part). Terry needs to know more about the American Family Association;
and keep in mind that Falwell said God had damned America. Various
pastors at the "Values" summit Romney attended have made statements
easily as extreme as Wright. Obama criticized Wright; has Romney
criticized Robertson, Fischer, the FRI, FRC, or NARTH?Okay, so this is
all a long way of saying that Terry has a lot of opinions, and no
coherent argument (that is, the evidence doesn't merit the claims) and
basically is saying, "OBAMA BLARGH!!!!! I LIKE ROMNEY!!!!" So, it's all
opinion, a lot of irrelevant factoids, and a lot of lies. So, why does
someone whose argument has no basis in fact put fact in caps? That's
what I've noticed over and over. (And not just with Romney
supporters--not all of whom are this disconnected from reality, and some
of whom can make arguments grounded in facts, but they don't put FACTS
in caps.) The people whose arguments are least connected to facts are
the ones most likely to put the term in caps. Okay, so here are some
notions people have tossed out.
- projection. They know, deep in their heart of hearts, that their
beliefs have no basis in reality, and so engage in defensive
projection.
- the Big Lie. They know, deep in their heart of hearts, that their
beliefs have no basis in reality, and hope to persuade others to share
them through insisting on how true they are. So, calling their beliefs
(a mix of opinions and false statements) FACTS is a kind of braggadocio,
hoping to cover how weak their case is.
- they really don't think in terms of external reality. That is, for
them, a "fact" is a belief they hold strongly. They only engage in
deductive reasoning, and therefore mean, by the word "fact," something
like "a statement that must be true if my other beliefs are true." That
means they are authoritarians, politically and epistemologically.
Research says that people like this are wrong more than others, and
wrong in the same ways (because they can't learn from their mistakes).
They are especially wrong about themselves, often rewriting their own
personal history in order to make their own sense of self coherent (that
is, they can't admit they made mistakes, so simply claim they never
made them).
- they are "social knowers." That is, they judge the accuracy of a
statement by the extent to which people like them say these things. So,
they sincerely believe that these statements MUST be true, since people
like them say so.
There is some research that suggests people tend to get more
like this as they age--this position is cognitively easier (since it
dismisses uncertainty) than various other positions, and people
increasingly avoid cognitively challenging situations as they age.
Anyway, here's your long answer.